Why I agreed to join AGMAI

Martin Hairer Professor of Pure Mathematics at EPFL and Imperial College London

There has been a lot of speculation regarding the “Advisory Group on Mathematics and Artifical Intelligence” agmai.org since it was announced on Monday. In this short blog post, I would like to explain in a bit more detail how the group works, what we are trying to achieve, and why I agreed to be part of this group.

First of all, let me lay down some facts that seem to have been drowned in a torrent of misinformation. The most important one is that we are genuinely independent of OpenAI and any other of the so-called ‘frontier’ AI labs. Yes, the original impetus of forming this group was OpenAI’s response to the statement A Severe Misalignment of AI in Mathematics, but not all members of the group were contacted by OpenAI in the first place, there is nobody besides the nine of us taking part in our conversations, we do not receive any monetary compensation, and our technical support (so far mainly regarding IT, legal, and communications) is being provided by the IAS. We also have not signed any documents placing any constraints whatsoever on what we state in public and whose advice we seek, besides the obvious confidentiality requirements. The other fundamental fact is that our overarching aim is to represent as well as we possibly can the interests of the mathematical community. This is a tall order and we may end up doing a terrible job at it (I certainly hope not!), but I am absolutely certain that all nine of us take this extremely seriously and are acting in good faith.

I am acutely aware of many of the pitfalls of being part of such a group. At a most basic level, the mathematics community consists of people with a very broad range of views and opinions (often strongly held ones!), and the nine of us clearly don’t form a representative sample. As an independent body our role is purely advisory, so the AI labs can choose to simply ignore it. It would also be very naïve to believe that the AI labs won’t try to spin whatever we say in a way that suits their PR machine, which dwarfs anything we could possibly come up with. Finally, given that the unprecedented situation we find ourselves in has the potential of impacting the lives of so many people1, whatever statement we make and / or advice we give will necessarily upset a sizable fraction of the maths community. So why on earth would I accept to be part of this?

Here are some of the reasons that swayed my mind:

  1. The recent releases, on privately controlled websites, of high-profile mathematical results combined with abject levels of scholarship and only minimal presentation effort has been undermining the usual standards of scientific practice. If we refuse to answer when being asked how to do better (irrespective of whether that ask is being done in good faith), how could we then complain about this behaviour?
  2. It is obvious that AI has already had a profound impact on mathematical research and raises numerous questions of correct attribution of ideas, priority, human understanding of ideas, etc. Many aspects of this revolution will be addressed within our community, but it makes no sense of taking a hard ‘ostrich’ approach of simply ignoring the AI labs and refusing to talk to them on principle.
  3. It is perfectly legitimate to question OpenAI’s motivations, but the fact is that they have now made an effort (as belated and minimal as it is) to engage with the mathematical community. Turning them down without even trying to engage with them would be the easiest way for them to get a PR win painting the mathematical community as a bunch of out of touch luddites.
  4. In the ‘Severe Misalignment’ statement, which has now been endorsed by nearly 8000 mathematicians, we conclude by saying that “These issues must be addressed urgently, in the mathematical community, by the companies developing these technologies, […\ldots]”. It would be rather hypocritical of myself to then chicken out at the first opportunity of actually having a chance of setting up some form of communications channel between the mathematical community and the AI labs just because I could get some flack for it.

Regarding the actual advice we intend to provide, it is a fact that AI companies have in recent months been producing some high profile mathematical results and that their publication and dissemination has been falling far short of acceptable mathematical practice, whichever way that is defined. However, the situation at hand is sufficiently unprecedented that we genuinely haven’t completely made up our minds yet on the best way forward and we fully intend to gather as much feedback as possible, be it through our feedback form, discussions with colleagues, the discussions on this blog, etc. We are going through a period of intense turmoil (and this doesn’t just concern mathematics) but I am heartened by the many intense but thoughtful and respectful discussions I have experienced both inside my own institution and at gatherings of mathematicians like the ICM over the past few months. I am convinced that the mathematical community can emerge all the more united and stronger from this experience.

  1. I intentionally do not use the word ‘career’ since for many of us mathematics is so much more than just a career. ↩︎

Crossposted on Terry Tao’s blog.


Received 22 September 2026.

32 responses to “Why I agreed to join AGMAI”

  1. Jerome Buzzi Avatar
    Jerome Buzzi

    Dear Colleague,

    Thanks for your implication in this complex, tense and fluid situation!

    However I cannot keep myself from wondering about the usefulness of « advising AI companies ». Indeed they could easily have hired a number of academic mathematicians to help them conform to academic standards if they had been interested in the slightest.

    Don’t you think that our energies would be better used to organize ourselves and understand the challenges and opportunities of these new tools?

    Sincerely yours

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  3. Random mathematician Avatar
    Random mathematician

    Can you just release the results please so that we can see what problems have been solved, I mean teasing people about 100 problem solution and not releasing them is much worse than releasing with a bad writup. So please can we see those results.

    1. Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote Avatar
      Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote

      No.

  4. MA Avatar
    MA

    Thank you for this post. Could you say a bit more about “the obvious confidentiality requirements”, for the benefit of those of us who aren’t sure which the “obvious” ones are?

    1. Richard Pinch Avatar
      Richard Pinch

      … and with whom those agreements have been made, please.

    2. mhairer Avatar

      When we discuss with an AI lab, they may sometimes mention confidential information.

      1. Anonymous Avatar
        Anonymous

        Are you potentially liable for monetary damages if you breach that confidentiality agreement? In the interests of full transparency, can you disclose the confidentiality agreement that you signed?

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I think maybe the presentation aspect, which was mentioned a few times, should not be a *major* part of the advice, like them not putting in the work on presentation only makes them look bad, and even though it’s annoying I think it’s relatively minor in terms of what people don’t like about it, it’s more like the icing on the cake

    I think the main “actionable” question is whether they release their results publicly or not. I did send in a suggestion on the form but I’m not sure it went through because I didn’t get an auto response, but either way I’ll not give any opinion on that here

    But having thought about it a bit more, I do think now maybe the best course for the advisory board would be not to give specific suggestions and rather try to communicate the concerns that people in the community have, leaving the decision making purely to openAI

  6. S Avatar
    S

    Thanks for the article. One thing that disturbed me about the anouncement of AGMAI on Open AI’s website was the following quote: https://openai.com/index/advisory-group-on-mathematics-and-ai/

    “Importantly, the group will not be responsible for advising us on how to pace our internal progress on mathematics.”

    Given that Open AI has acted irresponsibly during the whole Navier Stokes incident (and hasn’t really made a public acknowledgement or apology for their behavior). I feel as if this quote really sets the tone for their intentions. They will value your opinions, but they will feel free to do as they choose “internally”. How do you aim to deal with this? It feels as if they are in control, and your committee might end up just being a “liason” between the company and the public. Wouldn’t a better alternative be to support open source large language models supported and collectively funded by academic mathematicians?

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  8. D Avatar
    D

    You stated: “we genuinely haven’t completely made up our minds yet on the best way forward and we fully intend to gather as much feedback as possible, be it through our feedback form, discussions with colleagues, the discussions on this blog, etc.”

    But unfortunately that is contrary to the website of the ‘Misalignment Statement’ at https://mathandai.org/ (the problem being with that website, not with your statement here), which fails to collect feedback in the form of a ‘Dissenters’ tab where people could disagree with explanation, and thus in so doing that website seems to assert that the matter actually is completely settled, i.e. that you have “completely made up your minds” without interest in hearing opposing views, and without actually trying “to gather as much feedback as possible”.

    I elaborated more at https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2026/09/11/a-severe-misalignment-of-ai-in-mathematics/comment-page-3/#comment-695067 (e.g. also about the nuance of allowing partially-dissenting and partially-concurring opinions etc.). Please consider the recommendation there for an important change in the mathandai.org website. Thank you.

    1. mhairer Avatar

      The relevant website is agmai.org (linked at the top of the post) which *does* provide a free-form feedback form which I would encourage you to use.

  9. R Avatar
    R

    “…besides the obvious confidentiality requirements.”

    Wait, what? Does that mean that the group signed a confidentiality agreement written by OpenAI’s legal staff? Was a legal agreement with OpenAI signed even by Vakil (AMS president) and Tillmanm (IMU president-elect)?

  10. A random mathmatician Avatar
    A random mathmatician

    Here’s my question. I have some results that I have high hopes of getting accepted in top journals. In case they collide with some of the 100 major results, should I post them on Arxiv before the OpenAI release so I get the credit? Or are they already worthless since they’re just a prompt away for anyone with an internal account?

    1. Lars Pos Avatar
      Lars Pos

      For AI generated math there is now http://www.proofforum.org.

  11. Jimbob Jones Avatar
    Jimbob Jones

    Do you want these results to be released?
    There is still a choice.

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  13. BlaineTheMono Avatar
    BlaineTheMono

    Martin, if you truly believe that OpenAI reaching out to you to set up this board was a minimal effort, possibly in bad faith, please consider the following possibility. Obligatory disclaimer here, this is a personal thought experiment.

    Now that the board is running and started collecting feedback and comments from people, imagine that nothing major happen for a couple weeks. You all board members start giving advice on exposition and on publication (don’t overwhelm the journal system, please add these references, you should rewrite this introduction, etc.). Yet slowly, you start realizing that a bunch of the OpenAI filesare scooping PhD theses left and right and that dozens of PhD students will have their thesis work nuked by any release of the OpenAI files. Sure enough, you may think, an embargo of 2 years on the release would ensure that all of these young promising people get to publish their work, defend their theses, and go on to have confident, fruitful mathematical lives.

    Say you were to suggest such a measure to OpenAI. A small price to cost to improve the conditions of possibly dozens of your mathematicians, right? Yet I’m not sure that 2 years of time would seem like such a small price at all to a company with very concrete financial concerns and very real plans to move forward with their IPO, as soon as possible.

    Let me be as pessimistic as I now possibly can. Assume that, in this scenario, OpenAI decides to not follow your advice and instead, immediately releases everything they have. Sure enough, you all on the board would get a nice mention in the acknowledgements, thanking you for your cooperation in making these “results” and their release safe for the mathematical community.

    In such an awful (yet not unlikely) situation, when the general public and the mathematical community inevitably will get upset at a very destructive turn of events, who do you think they will blame?

    You all board members are setting yourselves up to take the blame and foot the (PR) bill in the place of OpenAI, if and when things go awry. I expect you all to be the scapegoats of whatever new tragedy is currently unfolding.

    To be clear, I’m not worried about any of your personal careers or lives — you are, after all, so established within the mathematical community that nothing could hurt you at this point. I’m worried that the AI companies (and OpenAI most of all) have finally figured out how to shed any pretense of accountability for their actions and their nefarious consequences on our community. Please reconsider.

    1. Varun Jha Avatar
      Varun Jha

      And what is the way forward in that scenario? Your proposal to just lock the results away for 2 years, will invite backlash from not only the mathematicians who dissent with your viewpoint, but also by the general public upon the entire Mathematical community. (It will be viewed by a lot of people as elitists hoarding and dispensing knowledge according to their whims, and will amplify the fears about concentration of power.)

      How do you know this is not worse than releasing the results? What impact will a worse public sentiment about Mathematicians have on future funding talks?

      Your entire premise is absurd because the results you seem to guard so zealously will be available to anyone with an open model 6-9 months from now.

      1. Alexander Bertoloni Meli Avatar
        Alexander Bertoloni Meli

        Completely agree. Locking away these results for two years or even 6 months would be unhinged, and frankly I cannot believe people who have access to the files would not use this to their advantage if only subconsciously. For instance, I’m sure no one on AGMAI (or their grad students) is wasting time right now working on problems that have already been solved, but the same cannot be said for the rest of us!

      2. BlaineTheMono Avatar
        BlaineTheMono

        I don’t actually think that the results should be locked away for two years, I agree that it wouldn’t be a tenable solution. It’s also not what I’m suggesting in my comment. I was explaining how AGMAI has put itself in a delicate position wrt OpenAI, where comflict could make them the scapegoat for OpenAI’s poor decisions, if and when they were to disagree with them. The two year thing was a thought experiment supposed to illustrate my point. Does that make more sense now?

  14. Joseph Tooby-Smith Avatar
    Joseph Tooby-Smith

    Mathematics is a team sport. It is a community, and any group that has assembled to speak on behalf of that community needs to pass a simple test. Can the average member of the community see themselves represented by that group?

    This group has been put together to contain the very best within mathematics, and I commend each of those nine people for taking up this baton and for doing something which will no doubt be very difficult. But, this group of nine people, as you yourself say, Martin, does not represent the average mathematician in the community.

    The group contains no PhD students, no postdocs currently struggling to find a job, no one from a teaching-heavy department, no one on the academic job market, no one actually at the stage of their career where the issues raised by these AI companies have substantial effects on livelihoods and putting food on the table. It doesn’t contain the voice of the ordinary mathematician, in an ordinary department and in an ordinary university.

    A distinguished career is a poor vantage point to judge how the shift that we are going through right now is going to affect the average member of the community.

    So, in my opinion, if this group is to survive and have a voice that the community actually cares about, then its composition needs to change. If you are reading this and you have the power to make that change, please do. I understand that this is just ‘one channel of communication’, but it is clearly the channel that OpenAI (at least) is planning on listening to.

    1. Varun Jha Avatar
      Varun Jha

      The purpose of this group is not to navigate the effect of AI on math. That is the job of math academia, not AI labs. Whatever you stop AI labs from doing now, will be done by someone with an open model 9 months from now.

      The purpose of this group is to disseminate AI results in such a manner that understanding is preserved along with truth value of the conjecture.

  15. alexsotirov Avatar
    alexsotirov

    The mathematical community has to engage with the AI companies. The fact is that the neural networks revolution has created something which seems to represent a new emergence event on our planet. Even though the AI companies may be motivated by corporate motives such as attracting investments and so forth within those companies are many mathematicians and scientists who surely recognise that the significance of their creation goes well beyond any profit motives. I find it unimaginable that one could be a leading mathematician or computer scientist and yet somehow leave behind values related to propagating knowledge in favour of narrow business interests. There is opportunity here to celebrate results instead of becoming divided. To resolve the questions which now are posed in front of the mathematics community it sems inevitable that we have to ask even bigger “purpose” questions that affect all of humanity in the age of AI. It is very conceivable that instead of creating “techno feudalism” as suggested by a renowned economist-politician AI will actually undermine “the profit motive” because it will remove many justifications for individuals concentrating economic power and because it can be replicated so readily. Engaging with the AI companies to maximize openness is part of the bigger “purpose” questions. They are well aware of this, obviously they know best the unprecedented magnitude of their creation, and it is clear to them that it is something which they will be neither allowed to nor be technologically capable to “privatize”.

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  17. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    It seems unfair that only a select few “distinguished figures” in mathematics get to view those results while the rest of us have to sit and wait in suspense, wondering if what they’ve been working on for a long time have been solved.

  18. John Baez Avatar

    I filled out the form on https://agmai.org but my reply was based on a confusion, so I should have something slightly different.

    The question:

    “We are currently facing the very specific challenge of advising OpenAI on how to coordinate the release of a large number of significant results in mathematics that they report have been produced by their internal model.

    We welcome input from the mathematical community on this question.”

    My answer:

    “The answer to this question is so important that it should be decided, not directly by just nine mathematicians, but in some more democratic way. You can design the structure for decision-making and perhaps keep the resulting organization from running off the rails, but the more the affected mathematicians have some say in what happens, the less unhappy they will be. There already exist democratically run organizations of mathematicians such as the AMS, LMS, and EMS that might help out here.”

  19. Anon PhD student Avatar
    Anon PhD student

    I do not understand what or who makes you 9 people speak for the rest of the mathematical community? Where is the election? Any bit of democratic legitimization? This is genuinely the height of hubris and any way to read this not cynically is dishonest.

    1. Manuel Avatar
      Manuel

      Why everything needs an election? Ai company is free to decide if and who they want to ask for advice, there is no law or general consensus on whether there should be elections or not. Would the outcome be really so much better if all mathematicians they asked refused to join the board? I think its great that some mathematicians agreed to this, and that they are willing to endure harsh comments and strong emotions of the community, because in the end, they can make in this way a little difference. They can make clear some scientific standards, even if Ai company violates them nevertheless, they can voice some suggestions of other mathematicians, they can contribute to the exchange and dialog between people/companies who have few ideas of math but strong influence on it and people who actually do math. I think we should welcome any well-intended effort any of our colleagues make, no matter small or big.

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