All the math we will not see

Alessandro Della Corte, Professor at Università di Camerino, and initiator of \begin{proof}

Imagine that in Babylon, 600 BC, they had today’s AI technology: deep learning, transformers, GPUs. The training data would consist only of pre-Greek mathematics, like ancient Egyptian and Babylonian mathematical traditions. I doubt that anyone, given only those ingredients, would believe that this pre-Greek-AI could autonomously produce, say, Archimedes’ results on the stability of equilibrium of paraboloids or the solution to the Brachistochrone problem.

Now shift the experiment to London, 1550 AD. Again, I suspect very few people would expect a pre-Newton-AI, trained only on the mathematics available then, to produce, say, C∗{\rm C}^*-algebras, ∞\infty-categories, or set-theoretic forcing.

In these cases, the task would have been not (just) “too difficult” for AI. It would have been enormously improbable because mathematics is not an extrapolation from prior state, it is an unpredictable cultural/historical phenomenon, in which some novelties are transformations from within, some come from practical needs, some are socially negotiated (think about the way ZF axioms stabilized) and some are influenced by historically dependent aesthetic and epistemological categories.

However, if we shift the experiment to today, suddenly many people are confident that AI could one day replace human mathematical work altogether.

To me, this confidence simply reflects our ignorance of what future mathematics will look like and our over-confidence that, the past being that confused process it was, now, finally, mathematics has taken its definitive, crystallized shape. The thought experiment highlight this double standard that we tend to have when judging past and future evolution of mathematical culture: whenever we already know the future trajectory of mathematics, we become much more cautious about believing that it could have been extrapolated from the past. Yet when we stand at the frontier ourselves, we are tempted to assume that the distance from today’s math to tomorrow’s is smaller than it actually is.

Part of the confusion may come from a rather systematic misevaluation of what drives mathematical evolution. Working mathematicians spend a very large chunk of their time studying other people’s papers. It is natural to believe that what one does most of the time is what matters most. But the daily practice of reading and building on existing work makes it easy to forget the big picture of historical and cultural conditions that guide the development. So let us try to separate (approximately, just enough for our purposes) what actually goes into mathematical work.

Mathematics is produced using, basically, three ingredients:

A: pre-existing mathematics: the mathematics that already exists, has been recorded and is available and known to the subject producing mathematics.

B: external stimuli from the real world: sensory experience, spatial intuition, practical needs (cartography for differential geometry, heat power for Fourier analysis, etc.), technological novelties (think of the math born out of QM experimental discoveries), particular phenomena one wants to understand or control (gambling, population dynamics, weather forecasting, transmission of information, etc.).

C: some internal labor of the subject that produces it.

One plausible division of the ingredients of mathematics for people and AI tools

It’s difficult to compare directly how “large” are A, B or C for mathematician Y in a particular piece of work. But it’s easier and more sensible to make a comparison between A, B and C, on average, for mathematicians and AI tools. A mathematician knows only an infinitesimal fraction of A. In the case of AI tools, instead, A grows disproportionately, while B is almost nonexistent. It’s worth noticing that, in either case, we know very little about C. We have only a very vague idea of what the internal labor involved in mathematical creation actually consists of. But if the proportions of A, B and C are indeed so different in humans and in current (LLM-based) AI tools, then C must be doing something very different in the two cases. Moreover, whoever has worked in mathematics knows that, for mathematicians,  C is not a disembodied logic engine. When people do mathematical work, C is constantly being shocked, redirected, fertilized by ingredients from B. This is true at the level of the individual mathematician, and all the more so when we consider mathematics across longer time scales and as a collective enterprise.

So perhaps one important question about AI and mathematics (besides well-documented problems like deskilling, dilution of good content, dependence on enormous private companies, environmental impact) is what kind of mathematical developments we will miss if we adopt too quickly, too pervasively, too universally the same kind of tools in every stage of education and research (including the reviewing process). The main long-term effect of this adoption might be to significantly change the general shape of mathematics (and science at large), from a diversified, unpredictable, robustly redundant, historically contingent universe of ideas, practices and schools to a more homogeneous and path-dependent one.

This would be perfectly compatible with the periodic, regular appearance of AI-aided results that, locally, are of the highest technical difficulty and even the finest mathematical quality. And even if one day AI goes beyond within-paradigm technical tasks, and proposes meaningful novel paradigms, the mathematics it creates will be its own, not a substitute for the one we would have produced, and that we may well never see.


Received 2 September 2026.

11 responses to “All the math we will not see”

  1. Dominique Manchon Avatar

    Well said. One can moreover stress that, from now on, the preexisting maths A(≤t) at moment t contains all the AI slop S(≤t) produced up to moment t. This directly and negatively affects the quality of the newly produced maths A(t+1). To say it otherwise, and this is true beyond mathematics, AI works by branching the drinking water circuit on the wastewater circuit.

    1. just different Avatar

      It surprises me that more people don’t see this, as well as how lousy the ROI already is for frontier models. Resolving Millennium Problems isn’t going to deliver more rank-and-file business customers when a cheapo version already meets their needs.

      To be clear, the existence of very powerful frontier models is still extremely disruptive for professional mathematics, but it’s likely LLM capabilities are already at f”<0, even though it won't become clear for a few years.

      1. Andrew J Dabrowski Avatar

        “… it’s likely LLM capabilities are already at f”<0, …"

        What's your evidence for that? A few months ago most math pundits thought Millennium Problems were beyond the reach of AI. So to me it looks like progress is still accelerating.

  2. Mahmut Levent Doğan Avatar

    AI need not independently encounter the physical world, or have economical/scientific/cultural needs to develop a new piece of mathematics. The external stimuli comes into the play when the mathematician interacts with AI, who chooses the problem, formulates the question, supplies the context, evaluates the answer and decides on what is interesting for AI to pursue.

    Essentially, I would argue that AI itself operates on B (external stimuli) as much as the human mathematician does by definition.

  3. sash Avatar
    sash

    It’s the same with programming. Would an LLM invent a compiler from machine code. I doubt it. It’s just a 60 year old field, there is a lot more to explore but idiots are letting it be hollowed out. Now the debate is should we even read the code the LLM produces.

    Think for a second what would have happened, if we asked an LLM to prove something, and then once it is proved with a lean certificate, we don’t even bother understanding what that proof was, but instead we immediately try to stack it like a brick to prove something else and like that to ad infinitum. Eventually the stacking will be done by an LLM. That seems to be the decision that software engineering as a field has taken, and unfortunately unless mathematicians defend themselves from this strongly, this will be the direction “mathematics” will become.

  4. Andrew Dabrowski Avatar
    Andrew Dabrowski

    This attitude is too negative. The profession of mathematician will change, probably greatly, but humans will still be able to explore the beauty of mathematics. To think otherwise is to sell short the human motivation towards beauty.

    All those developments you fear will be lost will not be as long as humans are motivated by the love abstract thought rather than riches or glory.

    1. Lohn_Jennon Avatar
      Lohn_Jennon

      This is an incredibly naive response. You have shifted the onus of adjusting on humans instead of on corporations. As a consequence the corporations can behave as destructively as they like.

      “All those developments you fear will be lost will not be as long as humans are motivated by the love abstract thought rather than riches or glory.”

      What does this even mean? You want humans to spend their lives interpreting the Wordslop of Claude?

      1. Andrew J Dabrowski Avatar
        Andrew J Dabrowski

        I do tend to be naive. But here I think the “destruction” corporations are threatening is well within the ambit of humans’ ability to adjust to, as demonstrated by our previous ability to adjust to the Industrial Revolution. To me, and I would guess most of society, putting human mathematicians out of jobs is hardly very “destructive”, at least compared with putting human manufacturing workers out of jobs, which we’ve already “adjusted” to.

        The onus of adjusting has always been on humans, because we’re so good at adjusting. (I leave aside the point that technology is one of our principle ways of adjusting.) In this case the adjustment is already obvious: UBI. With that, anyone who loves mathematics can devote as much time and energy to it as they like.

        Apparently you find it difficult to understand that someone might engage in an intellectual activity for the pure love of it, rather than for material reward or the ego boost of being better then others. Does it make me naive that I understand that perfectly?

  5. ryeguy10 Avatar

    It’s a real fear, but I’m optimistic. AI accelerating progress in mathematics could help us invent new areas and further progress. I also think we can and should actually run the experiment of training the most powerful AI models only on say pre-1900 data and we can see if it can solve everything posed in 1900 that has since been solved! I would guess not with the current LLM architecture, but maybe with some future AI system. I could be wrong.

    1. YW Avatar
      YW

      I actually don’t really understand the argument about “further progress”, which progress are further, which progress are closer, who defines that? If one does not care about losing the understanding that could have been developped during the process of exploring by taking the shortcut of AI, why would they care about the whatsoever further understanding? What’s the point after all? Or everything is measured only by application to the real world?

  6. Eric Dolores Avatar

    There is this story of the Feigenbaum constant, Feigenbaum was working with the logistic map, but at that time he was unable to make plots, so he instead started to make some hand computations and discovered a important constant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feigenbaum_constants.

    What if instead he had use a powerful computer? we will never know…

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