I’m Not Done Doing Math! Don’t Ignore Me!

Anonymous, Math PhD student

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I am about to graduate with a math PhD, with zero published papers, and a subpar thesis that’s just barely enough for me to graduate.

I have no illusions that I am on the same intellectual tier as the tenured professors, postdocs, and PhD students much more successful than me writing on this blog. I am no Yitang Zhang. I readily admit that I am a low-level mathematician compared to even the peers in my department. And much of this is my own fault. Significant stretches of my time in the program were spent procrastinating and being distracted, not to mention just plain being stuck on a project because I wasn’t good enough.

Realistically, I will not, and should not, be getting a research postdoc. I will end up in an overloaded teaching position or working a regular 9-to-5 job. And I do not have contempt for this future. I am sure I will manage to find a job that is fulfilling for me.

Under the old rules of academia, my life in mathematical research was over. I was supposed to quietly pack up my stuff, and leave research mathematics to the REAL mathematicians.

But I am still interested in doing math. I still think my research direction has genuine merit, and I still feel like I have more mathematics to give to the world. Thanks to AI, it is now feasible for someone like me to keep going. With language models accelerating the time-consuming parts of research, it is realistic for someone carrying a heavy teaching load or working a day job to produce novel, interesting mathematics in the little free time they have.

That is what I am going to try to do. And what is wrong with that?

I wanted to write this down because when I read essays here, whether pro-AI or anti-AI, people like me aren’t considered a part of the conversation.

We have an opportunity right now to ‘catch’ the people who have fallen by the wayside. People who just barely survived their PhD program and still have good ideas. Or people with just a Master’s or a Bachelor’s in mathematics who didn’t want to go through the grueling 5+ years of low pay for a PhD. Or those that went through years of postdoc positions and failed to secure a tenure-track job. We, the people outside of research academia that still wish to continue with mathematical research, exist!

But almost every conversation among established researchers seems to forget that. This is understandable because, before AI, many of us could not feasibly do serious research mathematics outside of a research position. Research math is incredibly time-consuming. Even if someone had a novel mathematical insight, keeping up with the latest literature, checking citations, and writing things up in an understandable, presentable way was a time-consuming process. It was not feasible to do without a lengthy dedicated research time in their schedule, afforded by a research position. We were not considered “real mathematicians” for a good, understandable reason. (There are exceptions, of course. Those outside of research jobs have produced a great deal of amazing research before AI. But we must admit that it is now MUCH EASIER to do research math outside of an academic position.)

Now, with the advent of AI, it IS realistic for us to continue participating in mathematical research.

So could we be brought back into the conversation?

Because right now, when I read through the posts on this blog, people like us are completely ignored:

  • I see reports from elite gatherings like the Harvard CMSA summit on Math and AI, or calls for societies to set norms. Will those boards and summits ever include people like me? Will they care about the opinions of an overloaded teaching faculty member just wanting to continue exploring the direction of their thesis? Or the person doing math research in their free time after their 9-to-5? I am afraid that these organizations will just be another society of already successful mathematicians writing rules for themselves.
  • There is some panic that AI will create a torrent of papers and there simply won’t be enough qualified people to peer-review them. Really? There aren’t enough people to review them? Thousands of math PhDs graduate every year without continuing a research career. Is there really a shortage of capable people, or is our definition of “capable” severely restricted? With AI, it is now much easier for those without research positions to keep up with the latest developments in their fields. Would that not drastically INCREASE the number of qualified peer reviewers?
  • Several pro-AI posts suggest that because AI makes writing papers too easy, we should stop writing papers or devalue them in favor of live seminar talks and in-person workshops. Do people realize how exclusionary this is? It is a luxury that can only be afforded by those with grants and dedicated time off for travel.
  • I see professors warning that because of AI, we might “lose an entire generation of mathematicians”, while others decry that AI will reduce math from a profession to a mere “hobby” done in people’s spare time. Where was this panic when the academic job market was throwing away the vast majority of every graduating PhD class for decades? And why is doing math in your spare time, for zero money and zero career credit, treated with such contempt?

I have lost the game of academic research careers, and I have made peace with that fact. What frustrates me is that the mathematical research establishment pretend I don’t exist. When a tool finally comes along that lets me keep doing the thing I love, making small but real contributions to my field from outside of a research position, I continue to be ignored. Instead, one side is telling me that my work doesn’t count for using AI, while the other side talks only about how it can be directed to better serve and preserve the scant few dedicated research positions.

It is telling that even in a fictional utopian vision of mathematics in 2038, set in a literal post-scarcity world, one can only imagine the mathematical community through the eyes of... an ETH Zurich professor and a postdoc heading to a three-month retreat in Princeton. Wow. Just wow. Even in the wildest, most utopian fantasies of the future, people like me don’t exist.


Received 1 November 2026.

10 responses to “I’m Not Done Doing Math! Don’t Ignore Me!”

  1. . Avatar
    .

    Math doesn’t belong to anybody, thus in my opinion everyone is free and welcome to enjoy math, there is no gate keeper to math! However, for math as an academic discipline, there are rules and expectations on the participants. If you publish in academic journals, you are expected to have the time to present and defend your work, you are expected to participate in peer-review and other service, just to name a few. Publishing something means to put out a signal that says: hello, I am an expert on this, this is my address, find me if you want to learn more from me (not from an llm).

  2. An optimist Avatar
    An optimist

    Academic jobs are scarce by the very nature of the job. I agree with you that it’s not a perfect meritocracy, and the people in the elite tend to vouch for the people in the elite. However, people in every area will value researchers with interesting voices and perspectives, and you should make an effort to surround yourself with them. If AI is allowing you to find your own voice in less time, that’s great! If you only enjoy the fact that you can vibe math results in little time, I’m afraid that’s a dangerous line of thinking for the math community. We are here to think deeply about things, and that, for better or for worse, requires time.

  3. Alessandra Faggionato Avatar
    Alessandra Faggionato

    Thank you for your contribution. It is interesting to learn about various points of view.

  4. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    I think you are somewhat aligned with the industry’s “democratization” argument, which has been used ad nauseam for software developers before AI (coding camps, coal miners need to code, etc.), while after AI they want to replace the entire profession!

    So you are certainly not overlooked, but people (both pro-AI and anti-AI) have heard this before and are skeptical, because the end goal is to eliminate both you and the mathematicians in academia.

    Also keep in mind that you’ll have to pay full API prices soon when the subsidies end. Then. you’ll never get the same inference quality that BigAI has for their math stunts [1]. Silicon Valley always starts with a decent product like Google Search in 2005 that gets worse over the decades.

    [1] Measuring price by output tokens is pure folly. what matters is the inference time, whether the original model has been quantized, etc. This is also why the cited API tokens for the Navier Stokes proof are meaningless. The quality of the tokens matters and it will be at its highest for their internal models.

  5. Anon Avatar
    Anon

    But I am still interested in doing math. I still think my research direction has genuine merit, and I still feel like I have more mathematics to give to the world. Thanks to AI, it is now feasible for someone like me to keep going. With language models accelerating the time-consuming parts of research, it is realistic for someone carrying a heavy teaching load or working a day job to produce novel, interesting mathematics in the little free time they have.That is what I am going to try to do. And what is wrong with that?

    Is it really you producing the math when AI produces it for you? My issue with this is it is a very accelerationist viewpoint of doing things – the point isnt that you can’t produce mathematics because you are working a side job, it is that you cant produce mathematics fast. AI just makes this process faster (and arguably also resolves a lot of the components, and so this differs as its not you doing mathematics it is you getting mathematics done from AI). No one is stopping you from attempting to continue with your ideas and no one really can!

    The issue is about the stability of the field – and yes the stability of the field is being argued by established researchers because arguably they are the ones who have a major part to play in the continuity of the field! I dont see an issue with this. The recreational mathematician isnt being seriously considered here because they dont have a direct financial stake in this situation. Its not contemptuous, its just logical that the people who want to protect jobs will worry about protecting the jobs directly impacted by this shift.

  6. Fred Daum Avatar
    Fred Daum

    All of your comments are very important. Young math students should be aware that only 2% to 5% of pure math PhDs actually become tenured full professors in math. This is a crucial practical fact that math professors should acknowledge as part of this discussion.

  7. Sal Avatar
    Sal

    I don’t really understand what a “REAL” mathematician is. Perhaps you possess strong math skills but never shows due to procrastination or perhaps you don’t. Not all of us are going to have big results and many of us have small incremental results. There are many factors that go into it.

    If LLM’s are used to do that math, at least substantial portions of it, then I don’t think that is doing mathematics, and instead is curating some automated mathematics.

  8. Bransden Jochain Avatar
    Bransden Jochain

    Sad to see that comments treat you as an alien entity, and unable to even share the excitement. The current math community will inevitably see its end at the rise of superhuman AI (despite endless cope and “I don’t believe ..”). A new wave of mathematicians will rise; you and all of us can continue to do math as we like, giving no damn about the current paradigm.

    The number of academics still thinking perturbatively about a non-perturbative event is striking, when it is clear it will not work. Earth’s intellectual sphere will be washed clean by this tide, and new kinds of citizens will inhabit it, the ones excited to explore the world with AI.

    (A pure-math PhD from R1)

    1. fairplaywes Avatar
      fairplaywes

      If AI becomes robustly superhuman at math and values like “human understanding” don’t matter, then why do we need you or anyone else doing math, regardless of views about AI? Why can’t AI just do math with/for other AI far beyond what we collectively can understand? If we need to know the answer to some question for application purposes we can just ask the AI oracle.

  9. fairplaywes Avatar
    fairplaywes

    If one presumes that it is important for authors to understand their work regardless of whether it is AI-generated or not, then I imagine this will still be time consuming to some degree. AI can do or speed up many tasks, but the author still needs to read and digest the AI output and ensure that it is disseminated in a human-readable document. Those who are willing to do this work can make contributions, and it doesn’t matter if they are professionally employed as math researchers or not. Realistically, AI does make this more accessible, though as others have pointed out, we should remember that the openly stated goal of leading AI companies to replace all of us, regardless of our avenue of involvement in math.

    What I am against is people using AI to do things where their own skills and knowledge provide no value and then dumping the results on arXiv. Like if you have some agent running to scour arXiv for open questions in fields you have no expertise in, autonomously prove them, and dump raw AI output on arXiv. Or if you tell the AI “make a math breakthrough, don’t give up” and again dump raw AI output.

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