Nothing changed

Martin Drohmann, former postdoc at the Sandia National Laboratories

Mathematics always was the story of humans searching for truth. Truth that is so compelling and universally verifiable that it is difficult to deny.

Not always easy to believe: Although the details are lost, it took Pythagoras and his followers some significant time and effort to accept the existence of irrational numbers.

Similarly, David Hilbert stated the challenge to prove that mathematics is logically complete. Most mathematicians believed it at the time, including Kurt Gödel: until he disproved it.

Whether LLMs or math problem solvers can prove logical facts doesn’t change anything about mathematics: it is a human story of finding truth that we can validate and believe in.

If a machine can find truth is an almost irrelevant question, because it also has to convince us of it. For that to happen, the machine needs some truth-seeking fanatics aka mathematicians to read and make sense of what the machine created. And the machine needs those mathematicians to tell a story that convinces the rest of the world that this truth can be trusted. Trusted enough to be taught in schools, or even to create weird concepts on top of it – something like a global financial system.

It was difficult when only humans were doing the thinking part: I remember, a couple decades ago, excitedly explaining to my parents how encryption and verification on the internet works. Maybe my educational skills aren’t the best, but it probably wasn’t my lack of clarity that I could not bring my parents to check their bank account balance over the internet…\ldots Until almost everyone else around them did it. Trust grows slowly!

Sustainability

I am pretty sure that mathematics is sustainable as long as there are humans who want to dedicate at least some of their lives to searching for undeniable truth. Probably, most of the readers of this blog would agree that this is a joyous purpose, so likely there is something inherently human about it.

LLMs are powered by machines. Machines that consume natural resources that don’t replenish as fast as they are used. And as someone who has witnessed the truth of Jevon’s paradox play out – several times, I believe that every effort to make the use of LLMs more “sustainable” will just speed up their resource usage.

So, for those of us worried that mathematics will never be the same, and that the hard work of problem solving might be entirely done by machines. Let’s all be realistic: Thinking machines are unsustainable. Those rare earth minerals just don’t replenish fast enough.  This too shall pass. We just don’t know how fast.

But chances are good that truth-seeking humans will outlive this episode of machine-assisted thinking.

Morale

LLMs are a reality now, and they won’t go away for the next few years. So, should we use them or avoid them? There definitely are plenty of reasonable answers. I saw the introduction of plastic “recycling” speed up the production of plastic, the development of more efficient combustion engines leading to bigger and more cars, and more efficient computers to ever more demanding applications, such as bitcoin mining and now LLMs.

With this experience in mind, I believe that it is out of my control to reduce energy usage through personal restrictions. But I want to be mindful as much as possible about when I use LLMs for mathematics, and ask myself if my usage is at least aligned with some basic values.

These questions serve as a good guide for me:

  • Are my prompts leading to more truth?
  • Do they help me learn? (It is so easy to explore adjacent topics to the knowledge I have acquired, because LLMs have ingested so much information. And I think that’s wonderful.)
  • Would it bring me more joy to think for myself?

With care,

Martin


Received 26 August 2026.

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6 responses to “Nothing changed”

  1. uri Avatar
    uri

    “For that to happen, the machine needs some truth-seeking fanatics aka mathematicians to read and make sense of what the machine created.”
    Aren’t we forgetting formal program verifiers? Things do change…

    1. BlaineTheMono Avatar
      BlaineTheMono

      Formal program verifiers can provide more trust in results for sure (as long as their kernels are robust and trustworthy), but they do not provide any kind of understanding of the results that they verify. If anything, formal proof verifiers shift the verification tasks from building understanding to building trust.

      Which of trust or understanding is the more important in mathematics? I’d argue that both are crucial and that one cannot go without the other, but I agree with the poster that creating mathematical understanding is a human enterprise.

  2. Dominique Manchon Avatar

    Interesting and sound point of view: no doubt that the duty of a researcher in Mathematics is to discover the truth. But now the the machines are seemingly able to track the truth faster than humans, the future role of mathematicians will be to digest what these modern avatars of oracles will say at exponentially growing speed. This task, to which some of our most gifted colleagues now start to devote themselves, is as demanding as mathematical research as we have practiced it until now, but fundamentally depressing, as the joy of discovery is lost, and even the joy of learning and understanding what talented colleagues discovered before. Delegating the proofreading and the validation of results to other machines (via Lean or another proof verifier) leads to mathematics done by machines for machines. Can we still call “truth” a result that no human can reasonably understand (the 67% result on the proportion of zeros of the Riemann zeta function is a good example)? To put it shortly, is really the future of human-made mathematics to be enslaved by IA?

    1. Manuel Avatar
      Manuel

      “the machines are seemingly able to track the truth faster than humans” seems indeed to be a possible future. However, even if they do, within the next 6 billion years they can just prove a finite number of statements. Now travel forward 6 billion years in time and look at the complement of the statements that have been settled with the help of AI until then. This complement is an infinite set that could contain very important facts. AI can help us answer more complex questions (maybe it could help create a new sun that still works well after 6 billion years), but could it possibly distract us from answering other very important questions?

      1. Dominique Manchon Avatar

        The point is to find these “other” important questions and ask them without waiting for 6 billion years.

        1. Manuel Avatar
          Manuel

          Indeed, I agree! Something along this line is what I meant to say. Nothing against AI and the wonderful advances it may enable, but its presence could impact the way we think (or the way we don’t think) and the way we value other peoples work (or the way we don’t value it). The future of human made mathematics might not be enslaved by AI, there might be fruitful coexistence of different groups of researchers, some who rely on the new technology, and some who ponder without it (and some in between). All of them could reach impactful conclusions that the other groups couldn’t. But what seems needed are new ideas (or old ideas revived) that allow such different groups to coexist within the same profession without one being inferior to the other; I doubt that AI can help finding such ideas, likely we need to be creative by ourselves to create a good environment.

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